CWC Meeting tonight! show up, i dare you Come everyone to our little meeting for tonight.

Sing chants with us, become the oracle at delphi, if only for a moment. Or channel prose and speak. Whichever one best suits your current interests and/or needs. 

Fireside lounge, from 4 to 5 pm, Thursdays.

Enjoy the rainy day,
Ethan


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Profrock admits "I have measured out my life with coffee spoons," but did he ever measure out his words? Did he examine his poetry and writing? Here's your chance to get that second opinion, instead of living as Mr. J. Alfred does, so isolated, in T.S. Eliot's work (who himself was always workshopping and reworking his poems and plays with acquaintances).

Join us on April 17th at our normal meeting time and place, 4-5 pm in the Fireside Lounge, to join in the workshopping!

Bring a piece (around 2 pages/600 words of prose works best, or your best estimate for other mediums), an idea you want to incorporate, and questions you want to ask your peers. This can be about the plot direction, development of characters, or themes, or style, or just about anything!

Hope to see you there!
(And yes we still have normal meetings the Thursdays between now and this, so come to those too.)

Ethan

P.S., apologies that I have been obsessed with The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock lately but you all should definitely read it. 

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We once again welcome all to our meeting this evening from 4-5 pm, in the Fireside Lounge, on the top floor of the Commons. We'll be having our regular time to write and share a bit and hope to see you there!


--Ethan
]]> Everyone, We once again welcome all to our meeting this evening from 4-5 pm, in the Fireside Lounge, on the top floor of the Commons. We'll be having our regular time to write and share a bit... https://my3.my.umbc.edu/api/v0/pixel/news/148383/guest@my.umbc.edu/80cf79b1d9015c8a70946ff0946daf8a/api/pixel UMBC Creative Writing Club https://my3.my.umbc.edu/groups/creative-writing-club https://assets3-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xsmall.png?1756689331 https://assets2-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/original.png?1756689331 https://assets1-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xxlarge.png?1756689331 https://assets4-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xlarge.png?1756689331 https://assets3-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/large.png?1756689331 https://assets1-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/medium.png?1756689331 https://assets3-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/small.png?1756689331 https://assets3-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xsmall.png?1756689331 https://assets1-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xxsmall.png?1756689331 UMBC Creative Writing Club 0 0 true Thu, 27 Mar 2025 11:15:36 -0400 COME ONE AND ALL Dearest fellows,

Attend (as best fits your schedule) our club's meeting tonight, for we shall have a grand time of writing, sharing, having this creativity that all the glum annals of schooling would have driven out of us. 

From 4pm until the minute hand rotates around that numbered circle once more after that, we will be gathered in that Common area, up at the highest floor, in that Fireside Lounge.

Do find it that despite your drained reserves of energy (how regrettable our midterms are!) to renew a bit of it at the weekly meeting. We hope to see you there.

Ethan


please excuse my silly, I am myself quite tired
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We welcome you back to another meeting this evening, as always, from 4-5 pm in the Fireside Lounge of the Commons. We'll have some time to write and discuss our current ideas and all, and hopefully this first round of midterm exams isn't destroying everyone!

To those of you not aware, the Discord has become active with a book club, managed by our secretary Nikita--but it's led by the members, and is a space very open to all. Those of you who hadn't heard of it, I recommend checking it out!

Hope to see you tonight,
Ethan
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We will henceforth (excuse my dated diction) meet in the same location at the same time for weekly meetings for the remainder of the semester; that is to say:
The Commons Fireside Lounge at 4-5 PM.

Thank you for reading and hope to see you!

Ethan
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Welcome to the spring semester! We are excited to be getting back into the swing of things and hope that you're rearing to get writing. We have two announcements this week:

Tuesday 2/4, Involvement Fest: come see us in the afternoon session from 1:30-3:30 pm in the Media & Performance section. We'll have a collaborative story written by passersby, so if you're there come add a twist!

Thursday 2/6, weekly meeting: our first meeting of this semester is this Thursday at 4-5 pm in the Fireside Lounge and we're excited to get back together, spend an hour writing and discussing our projects, ideas, and goals. This will be held the same time and place throughout the semester

Hope to see you this week!
--The CWC Officers
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Happy January! We've got a bit more break before the semester begins, let's finish this month strong :)

Just as the snow has lingered on the ground these couple weeks after falling, linger on the prompt for a while. We'll meet again soon in February, in only a few weeks! Hope to see you there. We have figured out a time for our weekly meetings, and they will be Thursdays from 4-5pm (starting, likely, 2/6). We will also try to host more online and workshopping events alongside these free-writing sessions since we know this time is limiting for some of you--in other words, we're making sure it's easy to stay involved in the club!

But before then, a final prompt for the break:

  • Nature is normally contrasted against humans, but are we separate from the natural world or within it? Explain or explore your view through your stories. 

(I loved sitting watching the snowfall we have been getting.)

Happy writing, wishing y'all warm teas and calm, restful days,
Ethan
]]> Writers, writers, writers, Happy January! We've got a bit more break before the semester begins, let's finish this month strong :) Just as the snow has lingered on the ground these couple... https://my3.my.umbc.edu/api/v0/pixel/news/146575/guest@my.umbc.edu/3370672ccc6ae3effd6cca3fe0365ec4/api/pixel UMBC Creative Writing Club https://my3.my.umbc.edu/groups/creative-writing-club https://assets3-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xsmall.png?1756689331 https://assets2-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/original.png?1756689331 https://assets1-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xxlarge.png?1756689331 https://assets4-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xlarge.png?1756689331 https://assets3-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/large.png?1756689331 https://assets1-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/medium.png?1756689331 https://assets3-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/small.png?1756689331 https://assets3-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xsmall.png?1756689331 https://assets1-my.umbc.edu/system/shared/avatars/groups/000/002/006/1fd604cb20dade015595c044171fc1e3/xxsmall.png?1756689331 UMBC Creative Writing Club 1 0 true Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:07:43 -0500 WINTER WRITING
Welcome to our winter break creative writing! We have a couple things for all of us to keep writing during this break. This will be a few hours of writing a week, but feel free to adjust your own goals for your needs/desires. You do not need to participate, but if you want to push yourself to get some words written, go for it!
Overall length goal:
  • Long pieces(prose, screenwriting, etc.): 15k words, 20k stretch goal if you're finding yourself ahead of pace
  • Short stories: 5 different stories, 7 stretch goal
  • Poetry: 10 different poems, 13 stretch goal
You can always go more or less, and if you wish definitely go back and edit your work in place of some of this: these goals as written are more for getting manuscripts done to look back at later during the semester.
Longer prompts: Try to use these for a few chapters, stories, or poems. We will post three total, one around every ten days. Here's the first one
  • Reflect on the good and the bad of your college experience so far. What have you learned? How could this make a good story or contribute to ideas in your work?

Word-prompting: Use these for jumping-off, just initially getting an idea of what to write about if you're not sure, or for incorporating detail into ideas you already have. It starts January and is every other day--then our spring semester begins Jan. 17th so it ends then. (See below)

Please share pieces as you find fit--if you finish a poem, story, or a couple chapters then post it to our Discord #writing-prompts channel, and we hope to see it grow through the next month! I'll be on campus for the winter semester so if anyone wants to meet, whether to discuss or to silently write, that's doable!

Have a good break!
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Today is Wednesday, and that of course means we'll be back at it again tonight:

SHER 011, 6 PM.

See ya there! 

--Ethan
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